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Post by slendermaschine on Jan 26, 2014 21:16:37 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but The Avengers is overrated beyond belief. Take away any singular aspect that makes it watchable, it becomes a complete piece of shit (which if you ask me are: the dialogue, the performances, the effects). And don't forget the self-awareness regarding humor. Can you imagine if Avengers took itself seriously? Holy shit would that have been a proper mess. On the flip slide, I'd say that irreverence is also why I I'm so apathetic at this point regarding the whole Marvel movie thing. I mean, what, is there going to be some big "shocker" or twist to the good guy wins in the end formula any time soon? Just going from my understanding and not actually seeing Thor 2, isn't Loki even a semi-good guy or something? As in the villain from the big Avengers flick? As someone who isn't a "comics fan" or anything, I find that I could only go for the hero for about 2 films - even with Iron Man 1&2, and I think Robert Downey Jr. is incredible no less - but there is no villain interesting enough to keep me staying for much else. That aspect that is so integral to conflict is one I hope they improve upon overall as the Marvel films progress; going back to my not-a-comics-fan stance, I didn't know who the hell Bane was, for instance, but after TDKR I had a very positive reflection on that character and his role regardless. Hell even Zod surprised me in Man of Steel because frankly I think the name Zod sounds silly as all fuck, but I still have no idea who the purple CGI bloke was in Avengers, let alone how in the hell to pronounce the name of those alien things. I don't even know why there were big Chinese space-dragons in Avengers, come to think of it... Anyhow, so long as they keep trying to improve and don't go the direction of Agents of Shield then that's something positive at least.
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Post by Mctenzington on Jan 26, 2014 22:02:57 GMT -5
Not caring about comic books makes it really tough to be enthusiastic about Hollywood films right now. I feel your feel.
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Post by minasa on Jan 29, 2014 17:34:15 GMT -5
Fuck you Nolan, fuck you.
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Post by el woospo on Jan 29, 2014 19:37:23 GMT -5
Fuck you Nolan, fuck you. Woah, never realized how mega tuff Batbloke was. Gnarly dude Nonal.
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Post by Chucky G on Jan 29, 2014 21:55:56 GMT -5
Fuck you Nolan, fuck you. I slip on ice when trying to fight Batman too.
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Post by tonio31 on Jan 29, 2014 23:09:20 GMT -5
Fuck you Nolan, fuck you. Clearly, Batman is a Jedi!
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Post by slendermaschine on Jan 30, 2014 1:42:43 GMT -5
For a while the Dark Knight trilogy was my favorite trilogy of films after TDKR, but my response has now tapered to "it's a good series" and that's about it, probably because I enjoyed forom the perspective outside of most of its fanbase in that I wouldn't say I'm necessarily a "Batman fat" and I simply liked the movies for what they were. But that gif... that looks like the 90s. Thankfully now I couldn't care less, although now I don't have a favorite trilogy, either.
Call me crazy, but I never watch the more "serious" films that are viable Oscar contenders because I just don't give a shit. Hurt Locker? The news is enough of my daily Middle East Digest. King's Speech? Didn't care (cry me a fucking river. You're a KING.) The Artist? Congratulations on discovering the "mute" function in the 21st century. Amour? Les Miserables? Lincoln? Old people die, that's how it works. Stop singing every fucking word, it's bloody obnoxious. Pennies should be smelted down to their more valuable form as metal because screw "$0.99," that penny can go right to hell.* Captain Phillips? Wouldn't pirate it. Her? Don't care about some guy having a relationship with his voicemail, let alone having it trick him into jacking off and thinking that it wasn't just disembodied robo-voice sex noises. Twelve Years a Slave? My day was/is going fine so I'm not going to spend over two hours to ruin that and get angry over something that I have no control over because I'm not a Time Wizard. Just all of the 2014 nominees? I think I'd prefer to just read a book or something else.
*I still actually want to see Argo, though ha ha.
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Post by Mctenzington on Jan 30, 2014 2:09:34 GMT -5
I wouldn't call you crazy, Slender, but I would say you have a very cynical and reductive view of movies.
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Post by Chucky G on Jan 30, 2014 12:05:53 GMT -5
For a while the Dark Knight trilogy was my favorite trilogy of films after TDKR, but my response has now tapered to "it's a good series" and that's about it, probably because I enjoyed forom the perspective outside of most of its fanbase in that I wouldn't say I'm necessarily a "Batman fat" and I simply liked the movies for what they were. But that gif... that looks like the 90s. Thankfully now I couldn't care less, although now I don't have a favorite trilogy, either. Call me crazy, but I never watch the more "serious" films that are viable Oscar contenders because I just don't give a shit. Hurt Locker? The news is enough of my daily Middle East Digest. King's Speech? Didn't care (cry me a fucking river. You're a KING.) The Artist? Congratulations on discovering the "mute" function in the 21st century. Amour? Les Miserables? Lincoln? Old people die, that's how it works. Stop singing every fucking word, it's bloody obnoxious. Pennies should be smelted down to their more valuable form as metal because screw "$0.99," that penny can go right to hell.* Captain Phillips? Wouldn't pirate it. Her? Don't care about some guy having a relationship with his voicemail, let alone having it trick him into jacking off and thinking that it wasn't just disembodied robo-voice sex noises. Twelve Years a Slave? My day was/is going fine so I'm not going to spend over two hours to ruin that and get angry over something that I have no control over because I'm not a Time Wizard. Just all of the 2014 nominees? I think I'd prefer to just read a book or something else. *I still actually want to see Argo, though ha ha. The Dark Knight remains my favorite movie, despite the plateauing and tapering of my opinion regarding it and its sequel/prelude. While, I won't deny the Oscar bait movies like The Butler, The King's Speech, and Dallas Buyer's Club aren't worth rushing out for, for Argo, Lincoln, and Hugo, those movies are worth watching because they're great movies in their own right. Argo's just a fun, good crowd pleaser. Lincoln's a well thought out civics lesson. And Hugo? Just another Scorsese movie showcasing how much I love Scorsese.
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Post by minasa on Feb 4, 2014 14:19:40 GMT -5
But that gif... that looks like the 90s. It's completely unacceptable, specially when there's movies like this: Who are a)Done with what is not even a quarter of the budget Nolan used b)Made in 2005 c)there's numerous other asian films (INDIE INCLUDED), that have much better fighting sequences than anything Hollywood has put out
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Post by slendermaschine on Feb 5, 2014 12:12:15 GMT -5
For all the action movies that come out, they sure do manage to be generally awful at actual action. But hey, can you imagine how bad the Ninja Turtles live adaption will be??? <abbr>T</abbr>he Dark Knight remains my favorite movie, despite the plateauing and tapering of my opinion regarding it and its sequel/prelude. While, I won't deny the Oscar bait movies like The Butler, The King's Speech, and Dallas Buyer's Club aren't worth rushing out for, for Argo, Lincoln, and Hugo, those movies are worth watching because they're great movies in their own right. Argo's just a fun, good crowd pleaser. Lincoln's a well thought out civics lesson. And Hugo? Just another Scorsese movie showcasing how much I love Scorsese. Argo sounds great and Hugo at least is on Netflix, so no money wasted even if I didn't like it (I'm typically not big into Animation, but I'll save it for when I'm in the mood for something like it). Lincoln, well, I'll be honest: I've taken enough social studies/civics/politics/history courses that I'm done with 18th Century American history. When I was a young kid, House of Burgesses --> House of Burgers and now it will always be House of Burgers to a part of me. Maybe if my exposure to that general time period didn't start from way back to when I could actually read it as House of Burgers I'd think differently, but I'm just done, ha ha! As for the more Oscar-baity movies, one thing that often perturbs me is when the film in question just seems so... paradoxical, essentially, to the entire purpose of entertainment. The general consensus comes across almost forced or contradictory, even, almost as though reviewers are trying to sound more in tune or enlightened. It's like hearing tastings where people are almost overtly trying to sound refined or it would be like reading restaurant reviews saying "it was the an incredible meal... and it gave me food poisoning for a month." Many movies that could be labeled as Oscar bait more often reinforce the "Academy" part of the Oscars that one could more easily assume are just a niche like the blokes saying "you need to try the Limburger-stuffed Scorpion peppers!" or "you need to go cageless great white shark tickling!" Except I can survive without tasting Chateau de Trust Fund despite what foodies say, and I can live without an hour of Ludovico Lite even though the "Academy" is handing out a plaudits left and right because "this movie is clearly intelligent and if we say it's intelligent, we're intelligent, too!" I mean, I've been hooked up to a hospital bed for a few weeks and tried to make the most of it, so in that respect 2-3 hours is nothing, but I wouldn't actually recommend sitting in an uncomfortable-ass bunk for a week hooked up to an IV just for a new life experience or widened view of life, either. So dovetailing from that, Call me Crazy pt 1., but I haven't seen Twelve Years a Slave and after hearing reviews that can basically be summed up as "Must see ... but a part of me died inside," I really have no intention in the near future to do so because I have no bloody clue what I'm supposed to get out of it. I don't think it would be a *bad* film by any means, but all of the double-sided praise from ciritics/reviewers/people in general, whether they realized or not, painted what I can only describe as a *negative* one. It almost sounds like a form of Ludovico Technique to get really pissed at the past. The gravity of the subject is obvious, but at the same time for most people who aren't piece of shit bigots we're not talking about convincing Westboro Baptists that the body of Christ is pumpernickle, either. Really, part of my not getting Twelve Years from the general word is simply that isn't why I see movies, I suppose. If it works for someone else, bully for them, but I don't want to spend over two hours seething in negativity. So when I read reviews declaring that it is the most important film and that you *must* see it, I can't but think that is an inappropriately blanket - and by that effect rather empty - way to describe the film and it only serves to reinforce a lack of credibility for such critics, reviewers, or the "Acadmey." That's fine and dandy, but if I wrote a book report saying "I read this book and I really liked it and you should read it because you'll like it too because it's deeeep." I would have been failed the fuck out of the room. So, um, call me crazy, but after all that I just think people reviewing movies suck at their jobs too often and the Academy can fuck on off. And just to add some levity to this lengthy post: Call me crazy pt 2., but did anyone else give zero fucks about Man of Steel's collateral damage? Other than any of that Daily Planet nonsense, another aspect I gave zero fucks about, I really couldn't care less that Superman tore the planet the fuck up because that's what I'd expect from already over-the-top "Super"man to do if he was fighting equally powerful beings. Or was he supposed to just do some hammy brawling and boxing? Then people would just bitch that the fights weren't good enough and Superman felt like a pussy. Give me a break. I just don't get the furor about it and when I'd hear people talking about how it was over-the-top and they should have acknowledged it like The Avengers did.* End of the day all of these super hero movies are insane because they're comic book movies! This isn't Saving Private Ryan; we're dealing with layers of fictional absurdities that make absolutely fuck-all zero sense if we're trying to apply real world logic to them especially when you consider how many times they've been re-written, re-told, and re-interpenetrated as a whole. *And if they did that, the first thing everyone would say is "Avengers did it," so why bother going down that road even? It's better they didn't.
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Post by Dominick on Feb 5, 2014 14:38:05 GMT -5
Oscar bait movies are why I hope Gravity wins this year. It was a crowd pleaser and it actually deserves to win unlike recent winners.
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